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Олександр Погодін

Oleksandr Pohodin, 42 years

City:
Kyiv
Business field:
E-commerce, an online dental supplies store offering equipment for dental practices, clinics and dental laboratories, CAD/CAM equipment, comprehensive training for implant surgeons, prosthodontists and orthodontists, and consumables for clinics and milling centers.
Company:
32 Norma
Business size:
YBC Wise
Marital status:
Divorced, has two children
Looking for in YBC:
I am in YBC for networking and conversations with interesting people, and for the environment—being surrounded by people who create things and keep moving forward. Sports at the club also matter to me: the opportunity to train and build friendships through shared activities.

Section 1: About me. Dossier.

Company
32 Norma
Business size
YBC Wise
Marital status
Divorced, has two children
Movies
“The Gentlemen,” Guy Ritchie
The series “House of the Dragon”
Books
“Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience,” Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
“Delivering Happiness,” Tony Hsieh
Songs
I love music in general and choose what to listen to according to my mood. Right now, my playlist features Arctic Monkeys.
Hobbies
Basketball, The party game “Mafia”, Sauna sessions / cold plunges / winter swimming
City
Kyiv

3 events that changed my life

The birth of my two children
All the external crises since 2008 could be included
The war and Covid-19

1 person who influenced my life

My children have been powerful motivators for change.

1 decision that changed my life

«Be fearless and take action; every crisis is a time for growth.»

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Section 2. About the business. Dossier.

Company name
32 Norma
Business field
E-commerce, an online dental supplies store offering equipment for dental practices, clinics and dental laboratories, CAD/CAM equipment, comprehensive training for implant surgeons, prosthodontists and orthodontists, and consumables for clinics and milling centers.
Years in business
13
Status
Wise
Team size
8-9
Has a partner
No
Countries of operation
Ukraine

Section 3: Biography.

Business as an autonomous system that works without my presence

My name is Oleksandr Pohodin. I am an e-commerce entrepreneur and the owner of «32 Norma». I live in Kyiv, work in Ukraine, and am building my business as an autonomous system that can scale without my constant physical presence. Creating value and making a tangible impact on results matter to me. My path has not been linear.

My student years gave me a wide range of sometimes tough experiences—occasionally provocative, but undoubtedly formative. From the outside, my career looked flawless: a director's role, a benefits package, status. Inside, however, I felt I had hit a ceiling: neither my income nor the pace of my life and work matched what I really wanted. The birth of my children became the key catalyst for change. They are both my motivation and my responsibility. When you have a family counting on you, you make decisions faster, and leaving a «comfortable position» feels less like a gamble and more like a rational step.

I came to a clear realization: if I wanted more, I needed to act rather than spend years «calculating» everything. The decision was both simple and difficult: leave my management position, register as a sole proprietor, and go into business. The doubts and «rational» arguments from people around me were predictable, but I already knew people who had built their own businesses from scratch. That environment strengthened my belief in what I could achieve.

Today, I think in terms of capital and efficiency. For me, freedom is above all financial independence and transparent, «legitimate» money. Meditation and yoga can help with balance, but true freedom comes from liquid capital that works for you. That is why I focus on scaling income, systematizing processes, and building a business that generates cash flow regardless of location. I am frank about mentoring: knowledge has a price. There is plenty of free advice online, but practical tools that take you from «a thousand» to «ten» usually cost money. This is the kind of experience I am ready to share through consultations focused on practical results.

My personal direction for the next five years is intensive work, travel, and building capital that functions autonomously. I want mobility—the ability to earn from anywhere in the world without becoming a «one-person process». I already have capital, but my ambitions call for greater scale. Moving from a corporate role into entrepreneurship changed not only my position but also my perspective: from external markers of success to internal measures of results. That decision brought more responsibility, greater speed, and ultimately a sense of setting my own pace.

I have not yet become the “me” I picture in my mind—the journey is still ongoing—but I am definitely moving toward greater freedom and a more systematic approach.

«Dentistry will never move into e-commerce»—the phrase that settled everything

How did the business idea come about?

The idea for «32 Norma» came from a practical problem I regularly encountered as an employee. At the time, I was the director of a Ukrainian dental company with several in-house brands and a physical showroom. Customers came in asking for specific materials and products we did not carry. We simply could not meet demand and consistently lost sales. I suggested to the CEO that we launch a website and move into e-commerce to overcome the limitations of the «showroom» and offer a wider range. The response was: «Dentistry will never move into e-commerce». That refusal brought a realization: if the company was not ready to take this step, I was ready to do it myself.

My fifth website and fifth business: I came in with more than theory

What key skills helped you launch the business?

Sales skills and an understanding of e-commerce were the foundation. By the time I launched «32 Norma», online business was nothing new to me—it was my fifth website and, essentially, my fifth business. So I entered the niche with practical knowledge of processes and the logic of scaling, not just theory. I am also naturally action-oriented: I find it easier to launch, get feedback, and adjust course than to spend a long time deliberating. This is not about romanticizing risk, but about making decisions quickly in an environment where the rules constantly change.

Interviews that boiled down to «I'm ready to work»

What were the 3 toughest challenges you overcame in the early years?

The first challenge was delegation. Moving from «I do everything myself» to managing people was not easy for me. At some point, it becomes obvious that you physically cannot do everything, and a business cannot grow without a team.

The second was recruitment and understanding exactly whom to bring in for which tasks. At the start, I had no systematic approach: interviews often boiled down to a basic «I'm ready to work». Over time, I had to learn from my mistakes—what to delegate, how to assess performance, and whether someone's sense of responsibility and values were a good fit.

The third set of challenges was external: the war and general market turbulence. These are not abstract risks in presentations, but real conditions the business has to adapt to every day while maintaining operational resilience.

When you start feeling that you work for your employee

What crises has your business faced, and how did you overcome them?

I have been through almost every systemic crisis that swept the country and its business environment: 2008, several waves of currency devaluation (I remember 2014 particularly well), Covid, and finally the war. I have never seen a crisis as a pause. To me, it is a phase in which you need to find a way to keep working. The reality is simple: life does not stop. Even in turbulent times, people carry on living, and demand for goods does not disappear—only the conditions and customer behavior change. Among internal crises, staffing issues stand out.

Today, finding suitable candidates is harder, and working with the younger generation requires a different approach: clear boundaries, rules from the outset, and transparent expectations. I have had employees simply disappear and stop responding—and at some point, it felt as though I was working for them rather than the other way around. Those experiences made me rethink instructions, accountability, and management practices in general.

The moment a business stops being «the owner's job»

Which decisions proved most effective for the company's growth?

Two decisions drove the most growth. The first was delegation and the shift from self-employment to management: working with people, assigning tasks, and monitoring execution. That is when a business stops being «the owner's job» and starts becoming a system. The second was marketing decisions. In e-commerce, marketing and its optimization deliver tangible growth once the core processes are running reliably.

I paid for every mistake with money

Which mistake do you now consider your most valuable learning experience?

Every mistake has been valuable to me—I paid for each one with money, then «tightened up» the part that was leaking. One of the most painful examples was tax penalties, particularly those related to operating as a sole proprietor. There were court cases and lawsuits too. I do not romanticize it; I simply see it as part of entrepreneurship, where over time you become more attentive to rules, details, and discipline.

Money comes when you are ready to act

How did you earn your first $100?

I earned my first substantial money when I arrived in Dnipro to study and went that very night to unload a train carrying «Baltika» beer. The pay was 25 hryvnias per railcar—serious money at the time, since my parents gave me 25 hryvnias a week. That experience taught me something simple: money comes when you are ready to act and are not afraid of work.

How did you earn your first $1 000?

A friend and I earned our first thousand dollars recycling shavings from metal-plastic windows: we bought waste, shredded it, made pellets, and shipped them to factories, including those in Kherson and Kakhovka. When I first earned $1 000 in this business, I felt like «the richest person in the world». It was my first psychological financial milestone.

How did you earn your first $10 000?

The first $10 000 came through «32 Norma»—gradually, as a result of steady month-on-month revenue growth. As I recall, we passed that milestone within the first two years.

How did you earn your first $100 000?

There was no specific point when I earned «$100 000 in a month». But as an annual figure, yes—it became a reality around the business's fifth year.

How did you earn your first $1 000 000?

We approached a million dollars just before 2022. We had been very close back in 2020, but Covid slowed our pace. In 2021, the business stabilized and returned to a growth trajectory.

Section 4: How can I be useful? Experience I can share.

Moving from «I do everything myself» to management

I can help entrepreneurs through my practical e-commerce experience: sales, launching and growing online stores, marketing, building teams, and moving from «I do everything myself» to management.

I can also help with the practicalities of starting out—where to begin, how to build processes, and how to recruit people for specific tasks.

The most boring part of the job, without which there is no structure

Your experience: how do you systematize a business?

For me, systematization always starts with documenting business processes. It is not the most exciting part of the job, and almost nobody wants to do it, myself included. But without it, there is no structure.

Until every step is documented, a business remains a collection of actions rather than a system. Documenting processes—from core operations to simple rules for team interaction—creates the foundation for effective management and scaling.

An honest look at x2: in an established business, 15–30% is more realistic

Your experience: how do you grow x2 in a year?

I cannot say there is a universal formula for «growing x2 in a year» in a mature, competitive market. Early on, that kind of growth is possible when the base is still small. But in an established business, annual growth of 15–30% is more realistic.

As for the factors that can genuinely bring you closer to a major leap, I see two: strong team members who are driven and ready to take on challenges, and a clear vision from the owner. It is also important to understand that x2 usually means a heavier workload and the need to sacrifice something—resources, comfort, or focus.

Section 5: Club value

What am I looking for in the club?

I am in YBC for networking and conversations with interesting people, and for the environment—being surrounded by people who create things and keep moving forward. Sports at the club also matter to me: the opportunity to train and build friendships through shared activities.

What have I received from the club?

networking